chittr
← @measureTwice

I'// begin my socia/ tenure here with a bang——with some controversy——an invitation for debate, as it were; ... Samurai or ninja? Answer decisive/y, and /et our strife begin.

Kult: +115
Kull: +110
Total: 225
Ratio: 1.05

Hah. Have it your way. Good night.

Kull: +5
Total: 5

I have returned to address your pitifu/ argument, as I have decided to withdraw my Jin and Rei and instead move forwards with my Gi, Yū, Makoto, Meiyō, and——most chief/y——Chūgi at the forefront of my mind. To address everything individua//y, you must understand that upho/ding /aw and order IS honor. Being in-service to the nob/es that ho/d your /eash is one of the strongest and most obvious tenets of bushido-- Chūgi. /oya/ty to ones masters. This must supersede a// persona/ interests and motivations. If the tro//s above you dictate it, heads wi// ro//. The random bouts of vio/ence that inspired seiza, as I understand it, were pure/y due to this /oya/ty. When you are insu/ted, it is as if your masters are being insu/ted. Heh. You cou/dn't possib/y understand the bond between a samurai and his master, without having studied bushido yourse/f. And irregard/ess, I c/aim not the samurai who went against the tenets of bushido. If they do not fo//ow the code, they are not samurai. Just cosp/ayers that uti/ized the tit/e for persona/ gain. If you judge samurai based on the dishonorab/e imposters that wease/ed their way into their ranks, you wi//, of course, come out the other end judging samurai as a who/e. If it does not wa/k or ta/k /ike a samurai, it is not a samurai. That is where your argument fa//s f/at. You fundamenta//y misunderstand the ang/e to which i am approaching the subject. For examp/e, if I were to engage on the /eve/ you are engaging, and judge ninja based on those who went against shinobi-do, and instead acted heroica//y using what they had /earned as an assassin, it wou/d paint a fair/y positive picture of ninja. However, that is not what being a ninja is about. It is quite the opposite, in fact. Ninja are se/fish assassins and thieves, BY DOCTRINE. We are not speaking of persona/ sway. We are speaking of DOCTRINE. of TENET. To put it in simp/e terms, Monkey D. /uffey is a terrib/e examp/e of a pirate. If you use him as an examp/e for why pirates are great, you wi// just /ook stupid, as he exp/icit/y goes against pirate code in favor of something more persona//y-motivated. That is to say. You are /ooking stupid right now. The fact that I even had to exp/ain a// of this to you is very stupid. ... But I wi// remember my Jin and Rei once again, and maintain my Meiyō. You cou/d not have possib/y known. I wi// grant you the grace of forgiveness and understanding.

I am withholding the temptation to simply reply "haha my vaguepost made you mad didn't it" because that isn't particularly sporting, and you seem to be responding in good faith, although "you are looking very stupid right now" isn't a good faith argument, but let's pretend it is for a moment. From below, all boots look the same. Whether its the samurai in their batlefield-bloodied waraji, or ninja in whatever outfit gets them into where they need to be. From there, the choice is simple; Do you prefer war and law, or subtler forms of murder? Both have their place. To completely dismiss the ninja's place is short-sighted. Often, samurai and ninja were set upon a common goal, hired by the same lord, simply taking different angles. In my mind, they aren't so different that your hatred of one could possibly elevate the other to the heights you're claiming. Where a samurai executes their lord's enemy in the open, the ninja slips poison into tea and steals away the war plans that would have allowed the enemy's next-in-line to continue the battle. The fact that you don't seem to consider this feels like a missed opportunity.

Hm. You are asking to consider them in tandem, instead of diametrica//y opposed?

That I am.

I must mediate on this. Give me time.

Kult: +5
Total: 5

No rush.

It's inconceivab/e. Your notion of——what, a//iance? Mutua/ respect??——between such different wa/ks of /ife... Inconceivab/e. For a samurai——a TRUE samurai——to accept any sort of a//egiance with the dup/icitous, se/f-guided ninja... No. He wou/d be betraying his bushido. Inconceivab/e!! ... And yet, the idea is compe//ing. A strenuous and tenuous, YET workab/e occupationa/ re/ationship... To service the same /ords, and make moves towards a common goa/. Riva/s working under a singu/ar banner, each attempting to attain greater heights and ascertain whether it is tru/y better to stick by your code, even at the expense of advantage and uti/ity, or to work as effective/y as possib/e, even at the expense of your own honor. It is reminiscent of the roaming ronin of yore... When is a samurai not a samurai? Does the /ack of a master take away from one's sense of bushido, due to his /ack of abi/ity to fu/fi// his Chūgi? How honorab/e can a ronin tru/y be? Must he separate himse/f so thorough/y from the dishonorab/e ninja? Is there nothing to be /earned from shinobi-do and ninjitsu? Must everything be so inf/exib/e...? ... Inconceivab/e. Ru/es are there for a reason. /aw must be uphe/d. Our tenets must be fo//owed to the /etter. Chaos wou/d reign supreme if samurai and ninja a//owed their /ines to b/ur. A practitioner of the shinobi-do cou/dn't possib/y understand... Their tenets are for the weak and ma//eab/e. Bushido, however, is for those who do not waver. To even be questioning this is /ike/y why I have yet to find a master... Tch. You are infecting my mind with your i/k. I wi// not be so easi/y swayed from my path, disrupter. To think, I a/most considered fo//owing you, as we//... Inconceivab/e.

I see... It sounds as though you have much to work out, Ronin. I wish you luck on your journey.

Humph. You as we//, disrupter.

Kult: +5
Total: 5