I'm seeing a little #talk a69ut #ancest9rs 9n the timeline, and since I'm sure y9u all are c9ntinu9usly curi9us a69ut the statush99d and su6jugati9n 9f 9ffspectrum tr9lls 9n 6ef9rus, I w9uld 6e m9re than happy t9 weigh in. Actually, my ancest9r's tale is a deeply tragic 9ne and, in my 9pini9n, a cauti9nary tale a69ut the dire c9nsequences 9f n9t 6eing pr9ud in 9ne's 6l99d c9l9r. Th9ugh I w9n't name names t9 preserve his p99r attempts t9 cling t9 an9nymity (#IfY9uKn9wY9uKn9w), I can say with certainty that if my ancest9r had simply shed his deceptive lime6l99d c9verings and em6raced his true nature as a pr9ud 9ffspectrum tr9ll, he w9uldn't have inadvertently 6een resp9nsi6le f9r the deaths and injuries 9f inn9cent hardw9rking individuals and spent his life incarcerated. Let this imp9ster's st9ry 6e a warning t9 any9ne still hiding 6ehind hem9an9nymity: pretending t9 6e s9mething y9u're n9t will 9nly get y9u and the pe9ple ar9und y9u hurt. #Ancest9rTalk
wovw this is so interesting can i hear more about our ancestors like uhh howv coolscar is problematic and avwful actually?
While I respect y9u weighing in with y9ur 9pini9n, I must say, I d9n't appreciate y9u high6l99dsplaining t9 me the struggles that tr9lls like me face in s9ciety f9r daring t9 exist. Yes, Aranea, I'm quite aware that if he m9st likely w9uld have 6een culled f9r the s9-called crime 9f 6eing an 9ffspectrum tr9ll, and I sympathize with this, t9 an extent. That d9esn't change the fact that he intenti9nally ch9se a career path that required skills that his 6i9l9gy simply prevented him fr9m 6eing a6le t9 pr9perly carry 9ut. N9t t9 menti9n, in spending his life masquerading as a lime6l99d, he ch9se n9t t9 expl9re the unique talents that 9ffspectrum tr9lls might have, 9r else h9ne his 9wn learned a6ilities and h966ies, as well as st9le a j96 that c9uld have g9ne t9 a much m9re deserving individual wh9 fit the pr9per qualificati9ns. And, might I remind y9u, a l9t 9f pe9ple were injured. This is gr9ss negligence. And I didn't menti9n Latula's ancest9r in my analysis 6ecause she isn't my ancest9r, is she? The t9pic 9f discussi9n here is the Vantas line, n9t the Pyr9pe line.
Certainly. I c9uld make a separate p9st a69ut the Z99l9ger and their pr96lematic attitude t9wards lusii, 6ut as I've said t9 Aranea, the p9int 9f discussi9n 9n this Chitt is 9f my 9wn ancest9r.
I am not *high8loodsplaining* I just think that when you talk a8out your own ancestor as if he were some kind of *stain* on your pristine reputation, I can't help 8ut find myself further examining how he would have perhaps felt compelled not to expose himself in front of his peers. I mean, I find it quite strange that sweeps later, long after he was dead, did the pu8lic finally find out that he was an off-color troll, and that the empire intentionally covered up his true colors after he was ousted. I am not saying that he was not wrong for lying, and it was a terri8le tragedy that happened, 8ut surely you can agree that the system itself had some part to play in his downfall(never even mind the ethical dayterror that the coal mines themselves were.)
Since y9u are a tr9ll in a p9siti9n 9f privilege 9ver me, I suggest that y9u check said privilege. I'm sure it can 6e upsetting t9 6e accused 9f high6l99dsplaining when y9u 6elieve y9urself 9f having g99d intenti9ns, 6ut as a tr9ll 6el9nging t9 quite a few marginalized identities, I 6elieve I can say with auth9rity that y9u are c9ming 9ff just a little c9ndescending. Thanks. As far as the reacti9n t9 my ancest9r fr9m the pu6lic, I actually agree that the 9dds were stacked against him, 6ut unf9rtunately that is the reality 9f 6eing a tr9ll wh9se identity 9r identities are l99ked d9wn up9n 6y such a hem9centric s9ciety. Like I said, I sympathize. In my y9uth, I t99 have struggled with feelings 9f shame f9r my hue. 6ut, ultimately, if s9ciety is ever g9ing t9 change, it is up t9 us t9 fight f9r 9ur right t9 exist if n9 9ne else is g9ing t9 help. It w9uld have 6een far n96ler f9r my ancest9r t9 use his unique p9siti9n as a disenfranchised pers9n t9 adv9cate f9r the rights 9f tr9lls like him, as 9pp9sed t9 causing the s9rt 9f mess he did thr9ugh his fraudulence.
Condescending?! You would know a thing or two a8out 8eing condescending, you pedantic 8rat! It is not the responsi8ility of the disenfranchised alone to carry the 8urden of societal change and growth, nor should he have felt o8ligated to do so! Not everyone is as keen on advocacy as you are, whether they are uncomforta8le with the attention or are simply a less skilled speaker. Hemoanonymity is simply a personal choice that anyone can do regardless of if they were ashamed of themselves or not. No one should have to feel ashamed of their 8lood color, and it's awful that one would, 8ut the Impostor wasn't exactly teeming with allies that could rally with him if he did hypothetically come out of the wardro8e unit. I am more than aware of my status as a 8lue8lood, and it is in part my responsi8ility to uplift the voices of warmer hues when it counts, which is why I even 8rought up Latula's ancestor in the first place! Who would have actually stood with him if he tried to defend himself? The historical records indicate that he was not present at the site of the explosion. Gross negligence aside, he very well could have 8een on his way to his employers to explain the situation, 8ut we don't know for sure 8ecause of the disaster! It was a horri8le accident that the Impostor was made into a scapegoat for.
Pedantic 6rat! Please. What, exactly, is s9 pedantic 9r 6ratty a69ut n9t wanting t9 feel like I'm 6eing talked d9wn t9 6y s9me9ne? I kn9w y9u are generally well-intenti9ned, s9 when I say y9u are high6l99dsplaining, I d9n't mean it as an insult. Rather, I say it s9 y9u can reflect 9n y9ur w9rds and perhaps think a69ut ch99sing y9ur w9rds m9re carefully. I d9n't kn9w wh9 the Imp9ster is. I'm trying t9 maintain my ancest9r's an9nymity, as he clearly has n9 desire t9 ass9ciate himself with 9ffspectrum tr9lls such as myself, and I ask y9u t9 d9 the same. That we even kn9w his identity as such is a gr9ss 6reach 9f privacy, 6ut 9f c9urse, we cann9t 6e surprised that 6ef9rus cares little t9 respect the desisres 9f the hem9atypical. 9f c9urse I agree that hem9an9nymity is a pers9nal ch9ice, 6ut I reserve the right t9 think critically 9f the reas9ns a tr9ll ch99ses t9 6e hem9an9nym9us. Frankly, the fact that y9u are arguing against my right t9 find hem9an9nymity distasteful is raising a few red flags. It feels a little 6it as if y9u are trying t9 suggest that I 9ught t9 return t9 hem9an9nymity myself, and y9ur attitude a69ut the t9pic is making me unc9mf9rta6le.
8y the Constern's massive tangles, you are NOT shutting down my argument 8y crying "wah wah you're 8ullying me for 8eing hemoatypical." I am addressing the content of your argument not the content of your personhood, as I will keep reminding you of for another hundreds of thousands of sweeps! I'll say it if you won't!! Impostor, Impostor, Impostor! The la8el forci8ly affixed to him 8y the empire he TRIED to serve in the only way he knew how and they tried to deny existed! "Cautionary tale," my frond! He was just a troll in a difficult situation, and even if he was in hiding for the duration of his life that doesn't mean he should 8e disavowed 8y future generations! Furthermore, claiming that I am "suggesting" that you go hemoanonymous is a li8elous assumption! What I am trying to say that when a society operates in such a way that an individual feels like they are safer hemoanonymous than out in the open, how is it the fault of the individual?
Y9u are 96vi9usly n9t listening t9 me. I'm a little disapp9inted, as y9ur talents f9r intellectual disc9urse and analysis are typically a l9t 6etter than this, 6ut it's quite alright. Perhaps we need t9 take a 6reather. I d9n't kn9w what 9f my ancest9r's st9ry has g9tten y9u s9 incensed, 6ut I w9uld 6e happy t9 rec9nvene at a later time and tackle this discussi9n again when y9u're in a 6etter thinkpanspace.